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Basic land cards are all rarity "Basic Land" even when they're promos #462

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taw opened this issue Sep 19, 2017 · 8 comments
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Basic land cards are all rarity "Basic Land" even when they're promos #462

taw opened this issue Sep 19, 2017 · 8 comments

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@taw
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taw commented Sep 19, 2017

I fixed them manually for mtg.wtf.

Affected sets - all basic lands in these:

  • arena / pARL
  • guru / pGRU
  • jr / pJGP
  • euro / pELP
  • apac / pALP
  • ptc / pPRE

These are clearly promo cards and not of "basic land" rarity in any meaningful sense.

@silasary
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Note that the rarity of basic lands for earlier sets are also not "Basic Land". (Including but not limited to the Island on the Alpha rare sheet)

@taw
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taw commented Sep 20, 2017

Here's what wiki says about print sheets. No idea how reliable this is.

Cases like troll rare Island we probably could just ignore.

@fenhl
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fenhl commented Sep 20, 2017

Rarity as currently defined on Gatherer should be considered separately from actual sheet rarity, since the former is what determines legality in formats such as Pauper. A separate field for sheet rarity has been proposed in the past, but would have to be maintained manually.

@lincolnthree
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I'm in favor of leaving this as-is. There are other, more reliable, ways to identify promos, such as setcode. And this data, as mentioned, is extremely important for calculating Pauper legality.

@taw
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taw commented Sep 20, 2017

None of these promo sets are on Gatherer, or relevant for Pauper.

@ZeldaZach
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Basics have always had the basic land rarity, and even if promo'd, i see no reason to change it...

@taw
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taw commented May 31, 2018

What do you mean by that?

Some of them rare symbol printed on them

And in terms of print sheets, there's been a ton of exceptions - many sets had basics printed on common sheets, and some sets (DGM, FRF, ME4) had non-basics printed on what's normally a basic land sheet.

Gatherer weirdly does this too for just one set.

@ZeldaZach
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Hmm... Maybe we can look into addressing this then

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