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test: remove test-http-exit-delay #4786

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test-http-exit-delay has a flaky history. Examination of the bug it was
written to find suggests that the test should be removed.

  • The test is trying to find a delay of up to 1 second, but the delay
    may also be much smaller than that. So the test will not catch the bug
    all the time. It is therefore flaky when the bug exists.
  • Experience has shown that the test is flaky as well when the bug is
    absent in the code because it can sometimes take slower devices (such as
    the Raspberry Pi devices that we have in continuous integration) more
    than the allowed one second to run. Increasing the timeout for those
    devices will make the test pass but will also mean that the test isn't
    really testing anything because the delay it is trying to catch was a
    delay of up to one second.

I don't think this is an appropriate test to run once on CI. If there is
to be a test for the issue in question, it should be a benchmark test
that is run a large number of times. We don't really have such tests in
CI yet

I would argue that this test is actively a problem. It does not reliably
catch the issue it is supposed to catch, nor can it likely be made to do
so. (To do so would likely require converting it to a benchmarking test
as previously described. We don't run those in CI, at least not at this
time.)

Because this test will have both false positives and false negatives,
especially on the slower devices, it contributes to a culture of
dismissing failed tests. It does not reliably identify an issue nor does
it reliably pass on a working code base. This test should be removed.

Ref: #4277

/cc @nodejs/testing

test-http-exit-delay has a flaky history. Examination of the bug it was
written to find suggests that the test should be removed.

* The test is trying to find a delay of up to 1 second, but the delay
may also be much smaller than that. So the test will not catch the bug
all the time. It is therefore flaky when the bug exists.

* Experience has shown that the test is flaky as well when the bug is
absent in the code because it can sometimes take slower devices (such as
the Raspberry Pi devices that we have in continuous integration) more
than the allowed one second to run. Increasing the timeout for those
devices will make the test pass but will also mean that the test isn't
really testing anything because the delay it is trying to catch was a
delay of up to one second.

I don't think this is an appropriate test to run once on CI. If there is
to be a test for the issue in question, it should be a benchmark test
that is run a large number of times. We don't really have such tests in
CI yet

I would argue that this test is actively a problem. It does not reliably
catch the issue it is supposed to catch, nor can it likely be made to do
so. (To do so would likely require converting it to a benchmarking test
as previously described. We don't run those in CI, at least not at this
time.)

Because this test will have both false positives and false negatives,
especially on the slower devices, it contributes to a culture of
dismissing failed tests. It does not reliably identify an issue nor does
it reliably pass on a working code base. This test should be removed.

Ref: nodejs#4277
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mscdex commented Jan 21, 2016

LGTM

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jasnell commented Jan 22, 2016

hmm... I hate removing tests :-(
but.. LGTM

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Trott commented Jan 22, 2016

Landed in 58d999e

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Trott added a commit that referenced this pull request Jan 22, 2016
test-http-exit-delay has a flaky history. Examination of the bug it was
written to find suggests that the test should be removed.

* The test is trying to find a delay of up to 1 second, but the delay
may also be much smaller than that. So the test will not catch the bug
all the time. It is therefore flaky when the bug exists.

* Experience has shown that the test is flaky as well when the bug is
absent in the code because it can sometimes take slower devices (such as
the Raspberry Pi devices that we have in continuous integration) more
than the allowed one second to run. Increasing the timeout for those
devices will make the test pass but will also mean that the test isn't
really testing anything because the delay it is trying to catch was a
delay of up to one second.

I don't think this is an appropriate test to run once on CI. If there is
to be a test for the issue in question, it should be a benchmark test
that is run a large number of times. We don't really have such tests in
CI yet

I would argue that this test is actively a problem. It does not reliably
catch the issue it is supposed to catch, nor can it likely be made to do
so. (To do so would likely require converting it to a benchmarking test
as previously described. We don't run those in CI, at least not at this
time.)

Because this test will have both false positives and false negatives,
especially on the slower devices, it contributes to a culture of
dismissing failed tests. It does not reliably identify an issue nor does
it reliably pass on a working code base. This test should be removed.

Ref: #4277
PR-URL: #4786
Reviewed-By: James M Snell <[email protected]>
Reviewed-By: Brian White <[email protected]>
rvagg pushed a commit that referenced this pull request Jan 25, 2016
test-http-exit-delay has a flaky history. Examination of the bug it was
written to find suggests that the test should be removed.

* The test is trying to find a delay of up to 1 second, but the delay
may also be much smaller than that. So the test will not catch the bug
all the time. It is therefore flaky when the bug exists.

* Experience has shown that the test is flaky as well when the bug is
absent in the code because it can sometimes take slower devices (such as
the Raspberry Pi devices that we have in continuous integration) more
than the allowed one second to run. Increasing the timeout for those
devices will make the test pass but will also mean that the test isn't
really testing anything because the delay it is trying to catch was a
delay of up to one second.

I don't think this is an appropriate test to run once on CI. If there is
to be a test for the issue in question, it should be a benchmark test
that is run a large number of times. We don't really have such tests in
CI yet

I would argue that this test is actively a problem. It does not reliably
catch the issue it is supposed to catch, nor can it likely be made to do
so. (To do so would likely require converting it to a benchmarking test
as previously described. We don't run those in CI, at least not at this
time.)

Because this test will have both false positives and false negatives,
especially on the slower devices, it contributes to a culture of
dismissing failed tests. It does not reliably identify an issue nor does
it reliably pass on a working code base. This test should be removed.

Ref: #4277
PR-URL: #4786
Reviewed-By: James M Snell <[email protected]>
Reviewed-By: Brian White <[email protected]>
MylesBorins pushed a commit that referenced this pull request Feb 17, 2016
test-http-exit-delay has a flaky history. Examination of the bug it was
written to find suggests that the test should be removed.

* The test is trying to find a delay of up to 1 second, but the delay
may also be much smaller than that. So the test will not catch the bug
all the time. It is therefore flaky when the bug exists.

* Experience has shown that the test is flaky as well when the bug is
absent in the code because it can sometimes take slower devices (such as
the Raspberry Pi devices that we have in continuous integration) more
than the allowed one second to run. Increasing the timeout for those
devices will make the test pass but will also mean that the test isn't
really testing anything because the delay it is trying to catch was a
delay of up to one second.

I don't think this is an appropriate test to run once on CI. If there is
to be a test for the issue in question, it should be a benchmark test
that is run a large number of times. We don't really have such tests in
CI yet

I would argue that this test is actively a problem. It does not reliably
catch the issue it is supposed to catch, nor can it likely be made to do
so. (To do so would likely require converting it to a benchmarking test
as previously described. We don't run those in CI, at least not at this
time.)

Because this test will have both false positives and false negatives,
especially on the slower devices, it contributes to a culture of
dismissing failed tests. It does not reliably identify an issue nor does
it reliably pass on a working code base. This test should be removed.

Ref: #4277
PR-URL: #4786
Reviewed-By: James M Snell <[email protected]>
Reviewed-By: Brian White <[email protected]>
MylesBorins pushed a commit that referenced this pull request Feb 18, 2016
test-http-exit-delay has a flaky history. Examination of the bug it was
written to find suggests that the test should be removed.

* The test is trying to find a delay of up to 1 second, but the delay
may also be much smaller than that. So the test will not catch the bug
all the time. It is therefore flaky when the bug exists.

* Experience has shown that the test is flaky as well when the bug is
absent in the code because it can sometimes take slower devices (such as
the Raspberry Pi devices that we have in continuous integration) more
than the allowed one second to run. Increasing the timeout for those
devices will make the test pass but will also mean that the test isn't
really testing anything because the delay it is trying to catch was a
delay of up to one second.

I don't think this is an appropriate test to run once on CI. If there is
to be a test for the issue in question, it should be a benchmark test
that is run a large number of times. We don't really have such tests in
CI yet

I would argue that this test is actively a problem. It does not reliably
catch the issue it is supposed to catch, nor can it likely be made to do
so. (To do so would likely require converting it to a benchmarking test
as previously described. We don't run those in CI, at least not at this
time.)

Because this test will have both false positives and false negatives,
especially on the slower devices, it contributes to a culture of
dismissing failed tests. It does not reliably identify an issue nor does
it reliably pass on a working code base. This test should be removed.

Ref: #4277
PR-URL: #4786
Reviewed-By: James M Snell <[email protected]>
Reviewed-By: Brian White <[email protected]>
@MylesBorins MylesBorins mentioned this pull request Feb 18, 2016
MylesBorins pushed a commit that referenced this pull request Mar 2, 2016
test-http-exit-delay has a flaky history. Examination of the bug it was
written to find suggests that the test should be removed.

* The test is trying to find a delay of up to 1 second, but the delay
may also be much smaller than that. So the test will not catch the bug
all the time. It is therefore flaky when the bug exists.

* Experience has shown that the test is flaky as well when the bug is
absent in the code because it can sometimes take slower devices (such as
the Raspberry Pi devices that we have in continuous integration) more
than the allowed one second to run. Increasing the timeout for those
devices will make the test pass but will also mean that the test isn't
really testing anything because the delay it is trying to catch was a
delay of up to one second.

I don't think this is an appropriate test to run once on CI. If there is
to be a test for the issue in question, it should be a benchmark test
that is run a large number of times. We don't really have such tests in
CI yet

I would argue that this test is actively a problem. It does not reliably
catch the issue it is supposed to catch, nor can it likely be made to do
so. (To do so would likely require converting it to a benchmarking test
as previously described. We don't run those in CI, at least not at this
time.)

Because this test will have both false positives and false negatives,
especially on the slower devices, it contributes to a culture of
dismissing failed tests. It does not reliably identify an issue nor does
it reliably pass on a working code base. This test should be removed.

Ref: #4277
PR-URL: #4786
Reviewed-By: James M Snell <[email protected]>
Reviewed-By: Brian White <[email protected]>
scovetta pushed a commit to scovetta/node that referenced this pull request Apr 2, 2016
test-http-exit-delay has a flaky history. Examination of the bug it was
written to find suggests that the test should be removed.

* The test is trying to find a delay of up to 1 second, but the delay
may also be much smaller than that. So the test will not catch the bug
all the time. It is therefore flaky when the bug exists.

* Experience has shown that the test is flaky as well when the bug is
absent in the code because it can sometimes take slower devices (such as
the Raspberry Pi devices that we have in continuous integration) more
than the allowed one second to run. Increasing the timeout for those
devices will make the test pass but will also mean that the test isn't
really testing anything because the delay it is trying to catch was a
delay of up to one second.

I don't think this is an appropriate test to run once on CI. If there is
to be a test for the issue in question, it should be a benchmark test
that is run a large number of times. We don't really have such tests in
CI yet

I would argue that this test is actively a problem. It does not reliably
catch the issue it is supposed to catch, nor can it likely be made to do
so. (To do so would likely require converting it to a benchmarking test
as previously described. We don't run those in CI, at least not at this
time.)

Because this test will have both false positives and false negatives,
especially on the slower devices, it contributes to a culture of
dismissing failed tests. It does not reliably identify an issue nor does
it reliably pass on a working code base. This test should be removed.

Ref: nodejs#4277
PR-URL: nodejs#4786
Reviewed-By: James M Snell <[email protected]>
Reviewed-By: Brian White <[email protected]>
@Trott Trott deleted the rm-test-http-exit-delay branch January 13, 2022 22:31
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