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Make the upgrade-pip prompt look less like an error (to a new user) #5420

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pradyunsg opened this issue May 17, 2018 · 5 comments
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Make the upgrade-pip prompt look less like an error (to a new user) #5420

pradyunsg opened this issue May 17, 2018 · 5 comments
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@pradyunsg
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pip's current upgrade prompt can be confusing for new users where they confuse the upgrade advice as advice for fixing errors they're facing.

One of the solutions for this would be to make the upgrade prompt look different from the error output so that a new user does not confuse it with the same.

Context: pypa/packaging-problems#149

@pradyunsg pradyunsg added this to the Improve User Experience milestone May 17, 2018
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tkzv commented May 18, 2018

The nagging prompt causes users to break the system. There should be an option to disable the prompt.

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pfmoore commented May 18, 2018

There is. There's a --disable-pip-version-check option for pip, and system redistributors can patch out or modify the prompt.

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ncoghlan commented May 20, 2018

Note that #5346 is a separate issue to silence this warning entirely when pip didn't get installed by pip. (see https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-pip/pull-request/5#request_diff for the downstream Fedora patch implementing that behaviour)

Upstream PR: https:/pypa/pip/pull/5368/files

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The point of this issue here is not that pip's upgrade prompt can cause users to break their systems (that's a whole other deal). That's #5346 as @ncoghlan pointed out.

The point here is that for someone who's getting started, when they have an outdated pip and have an error in the installation, the upgrade instructions seem like the solution to the error in installation.

Either the message needs be clearer in that case or at least somehow show that it's not related to the error.

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This can probably be closed with the merge of #10959 which changed the prompt to be much less scary. Stealing the screenshot, here's what it looks like now:
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